| Bailiffs get power to use force on debtors?! |
| I have just read this.. Bailiffs get power to use force on debtors - Times Online Does this mean my account with HSBC credit card, which I dispute due to them not having a CCA, can now break into my house? sortingitout View Public Profile Send a private message to sortingitout Find More Posts by sortingitout Yesterday, 19:15 # 2 ( permalink ) Happyfeet24 Basic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Dec 2008 I am in: Debt Posts: 49 Re: Bailiffs get power to use force on debtors?! I don't think it's in force yet. Then if it does come into force then the court process would still need to be seen through before a baliff could act. I think? I might be completely wrong though Happyfeet24 View Public Profile Send a private message to Happyfeet24 Find More Posts by Happyfeet24 Yesterday, 19:18 # 3 ( permalink ) mr.ton Platinum Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,875 Re: Bailiffs get power to use force on debtors?! I can honestly say that im not worried....any bailiff lays a finger on me & it will be the last thing they ever do There would be prosecutions gallore & claims for compensation etc...it will just be a nightmare all round. Its just another gimmick by a government desperate to sound tough...when infact its weak to the core & a year away from being kicked out of power. mr.ton View Public Profile Send a private message to mr.ton Find More Posts by mr.ton |
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Tuesday, 6 January 2009
Bailiffs get power to use force on debtors?!
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Sunday, 4 January 2009
Barclaycard - CCA Response
I sent a cca request to Barclaycard back in Spetember and I have just received their response and it said the following: Thank you for contacting us. Enclosed is a copy of your Barclaycard Terms & conditions. If you need any extra information or if you've any questions then visit our website or give us a call. Thanks for choosing Barclaycard we appreciate your custom. Yours Sincerely Elaine Mockler Customer Service Director Any advice as to what I should do next? There was nothing in with the letter except the current Terms & Conditions. ska1664 View Public Profile Send a private message to ska1664 Find More Posts by ska1664 15th November 2008, 12:34 # 2 ( permalink ) cymruambyth Classic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 362 Re: Barclaycard - CCA Response You could try sending the following letter. Thank you to who ever wrote the original Thank you for your letter of XXXXXX, the contents of which have been noted. You have failed to respond to my legal request under section 77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 to supply me a true copy of the original Consumer Credit Agreement for the above account. To clarify, just sending the Terms and Conditions is a breach of the Act and Regulations as, apart from the information that the Regulations provide that you may exclude, the copy must be a “true copy” of the agreement. This breach of the agreement can be demonstrated as follows: Section 180(1) (b) authorises, “the omission from a copy of certain material from the original, or the inclusion of certain material in condensed form.” This refers to statutory instruments made under the heading Copies of document regulations and in this care in particular to SI 1983/1557. Before leaving section 180 there are two other sections that should be remembered these are: Section 2(2) (a) A duty imposed by any provision of this Act (except section 35) to supply a copy of any document is not satisfied unless the copy supplied is in the prescribed form and conforms to the prescribed requirements; And more importantly: Section 2(b) A duty imposed by any provision of this Act (except section 35) to supply a copy of any document is not infringed by the omission of any material, or its inclusion in condensed form, if that is authorised by regulations. You will see that this quite clearly states that whilst certain items may be left out of the copy document, the rest of the document must be in the form and contain all items as prescribed by the regulations. Turning to the regulations regarding what may be omitted from these copies these are contained with SI 1983/1557. The regulations state: (2) There may be omitted from any such copy- (a) any information included in an executed agreement, security instrument or other document relating to the debtor, hirer or surety or included for the use of the creditor or owner only which is not required to be included therein by the Act or any Regulations there under as to the form and content of the document of which it is a copy; (b) any signature box, signature or date of signature (other than, in the case of a copy of a cancellable executed agreement delivered to the debtor under section 63(1) of the Act, the date of signature by the debtor of an agreement to which section 68(b) of the Act applies); It is quite clear what can be omitted from the copy document, this again asserts that all other details of the agreement should presented in form and content as required by the regulations. The requirements of the Agreement regulations 1983/1553 are very explicit in describing the form and content of an agreement and this as I have demonstrated also applies to the copy of any such agreement with the above mentioned proviso. Nowhere within these regulations does it state that part of the agreement can be presented on a separate document headed terms and conditions. It does state that all terms and conditions should be within the agreement document and is explicit of the form in which it is presented. I hope this explains why your reply was unacceptable I await a True copy of my agreement and would remind you again that whilst the request has not been complied with the default continues Yours faithfully cymruambyth View Public Profile Send a private message to cymruambyth Find More Posts by cymruambyth 15th November 2008, 15:45 # 3 ( permalink ) ska1664 Basic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 62
Friday, 2 January 2009
CCA'd CAPQUEST Re: Egg credit card
| CCA'd CAPQUEST Re: Egg credit card |
| Hi all 1) CCA'd Capquest re an Egg Credit card. 2) Received a letter back from them saying that the account was on hold until further notice. 3) On Saturday 9th Aug (After 12 days, but within the month of sending the CCA cheque off) I receive a signed copy of the EGG statement (which I will upload). The thing is, in the letter received on Saturday, they stated that they have put the account on hold until the 17th August, BUT they have taken a payment and increased my monthly payment by £11.00. (today is the 11th). I'm not sure that they should have taken the money after saying my account will be on hold until the 17th and I thought the CCA documents included a statement of accounts (so I can see where the figures come from etc). Can anyone help? I'll see if I can scan the document in shortly..... __________________ twinkle1977 View Public Profile Send a private message to twinkle1977 Find More Posts by twinkle1977 11th August 2008, 14:43 # 2 ( permalink ) twinkle1977 Basic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: May 2008 I am in: Eastleigh, Hampshire Posts: 57 Re: CCA'd CAPQUEST Re: Egg credit card Attached is the letter from Capquest and copy of the CCA Can someone please take a look and let me know if I should / what I should do Thanks Last edited by twinkle1977; 11th August 2008 at 23:10 . twinkle1977 View Public Profile Send a private message to twinkle1977 Find More Posts by twinkle1977 11th August 2008, 15:14 # 3 ( permalink ) OnMyWayOut Gold Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Mar 2008 I am in: control again (nearly) Posts: 487 Re: CCA'd CAPQUEST Re: Egg credit card How are you paying - card payment or direct debit? They can't take more than the agreed amount without your permission - in fact they can only take a single payment on a card without getting your permission. Stop the payment authority and change it to standing order so that you have control, not them. Having your account on hold doesn't normally stop them taking the agreed payment, just stops them calling or taking legal action usually. OnMyWayOut View Public Profile Send a private message to OnMyWayOut |
Cabot pressure
Cabot pressure
Hi, you have been a great help to me in the past but I would like to know what to do with this company. 2 years ago they contacted me regarding an old debt, I refused to give my bank details and asked (by phone) for the paperwork as I thought it was already paid. Needless to say I never received this, only a card to pay at the post office. This I have been doing but I keep getting letters saying I have missed a payment and to contact them. These I have been ignoring as I know I have been paying. I have today received TWO letters - one saying they will take further action if I don't contact them and the other asking me to send a completed budget form to review the debt. Both letters give different figures of final payment!!!!! Is it too late to ask for the original agreement again or should I just keep paying, telling them ask far as I am concerned I am up to date with the payments? Your help would be greatly appreciated as I am getting severely peed off with them studentatou View Public Profile Send a private message to studentatou Find More Posts by studentatou 15th November 2008, 12:02 # 2 ( permalink ) creditcardmug Platinum Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Dec 2007 I am in: Somewhere in UK where it rains all the time Posts: 2,775 Re: Cabot pressure Hi, send them a CCA request (letter N in the templates, dont send them budget sheets etc. its noe of their business). Enclose a £1 PO and dont sign the letter just type, they have 14 days to reply, if not send the acc in dispute letter and stop paying creditcardmug View Public Profile Send a private message to creditcardmug Find More Posts by creditcardmug 15th November 2008, 13:09 # 3 ( permalink ) studentatou Classic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 155 Re: Cabot pressure Does it not matter that I have been paying for nearly two years, would that not mean that I have restarted the debt? studentatou View Public Profile Send a private message to studentatou Find More Posts by studentatou
Hi, you have been a great help to me in the past but I would like to know what to do with this company. 2 years ago they contacted me regarding an old debt, I refused to give my bank details and asked (by phone) for the paperwork as I thought it was already paid. Needless to say I never received this, only a card to pay at the post office. This I have been doing but I keep getting letters saying I have missed a payment and to contact them. These I have been ignoring as I know I have been paying. I have today received TWO letters - one saying they will take further action if I don't contact them and the other asking me to send a completed budget form to review the debt. Both letters give different figures of final payment!!!!! Is it too late to ask for the original agreement again or should I just keep paying, telling them ask far as I am concerned I am up to date with the payments? Your help would be greatly appreciated as I am getting severely peed off with them studentatou View Public Profile Send a private message to studentatou Find More Posts by studentatou 15th November 2008, 12:02 # 2 ( permalink ) creditcardmug Platinum Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Dec 2007 I am in: Somewhere in UK where it rains all the time Posts: 2,775 Re: Cabot pressure Hi, send them a CCA request (letter N in the templates, dont send them budget sheets etc. its noe of their business). Enclose a £1 PO and dont sign the letter just type, they have 14 days to reply, if not send the acc in dispute letter and stop paying creditcardmug View Public Profile Send a private message to creditcardmug Find More Posts by creditcardmug 15th November 2008, 13:09 # 3 ( permalink ) studentatou Classic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 155 Re: Cabot pressure Does it not matter that I have been paying for nearly two years, would that not mean that I have restarted the debt? studentatou View Public Profile Send a private message to studentatou Find More Posts by studentatou
Thursday, 1 January 2009
Help with CL Finance please
Hi My wife had an HSBC card we received letters from Metropolitan central debt recovery unit. on the 15th feb 2008 I requested a cca under the consumer credit act 1974 and received a letter saying that they were requesting this info from hsbc but never received any thing further. A week or so ago i received a letter regarding this from CL Finance ltd and wrote to them to say that i had requested the cca and had received nothing and therefore this was in dispute and should not have been passed to them. We have know received a claim form from CL Finance (in the northampton ccbc) regarding this debt. what do i do ? i live in stoke on trent so can not attend a court in northamton any help would be greatly appreciated will be back online after 10pm __________________ HTH (Hope This Helps) RDM2006 HSBC Claim Started 02/07/06 £3968.23 money in bank 11th Aug £4755.62 Are you a newcomer to this site? - Or - Do you simply need to know what to do next ? Click on this link for a Step By Step Guide complete with links If you would like a more in depth version then click here THE FORCE (OF CAG) IS WITH YOU We've Helped You To Claim - Now Help Us Remain A live Site - Make a Donation All advice and opinions given by people on this site are personal, and are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, please seek qualified professional legal Help. However, if you have found any advice you have been given helpful. Why not show your gratitude And Click the Scales on the post you found helpful. rdm2006 View Public Profile Send a private message to rdm2006 Find More Posts by rdm2006 29th July 2008, 20:18 # 2 ( permalink ) pt2537 Site Team Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Jan 2007 I am in: Southampton (actually Eastleigh) Posts: 9,892 Re: Help with CL Finance please Hi RDM2006 what are the particulars of claim as set out on the claim form Regards paul __________________ .... .... Currently due to work commitments i am unavailable and will not be able to reply to any requests for assistance. I expect to be off-line for the next month or so at least PLEASE DO NOT PRIVATE MESSAGE ME AND THEN WAIT FOR A REPLY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU NEED URGENT HELP AS YOU MAY NOT GET A REPLY IN TIME pt2537 View Public Profile Send a private message to pt2537 Visit pt2537's homepage! Find More Posts by pt2537 29th July 2008, 20:19 # 3 ( permalink ) creditcardmug Platinum Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!
Ignored CCJ
Ignored CCJ
I have received a Judgment Default with an amount to pay to be received by 5 January. What happens if I ignore it? Will the bailiffs call on me or should I just fill in the court form explaining I cannot pay the amount requested?? I know ignoring is burying my head in the sand but thats how I feel. bevo View Public Profile Send a private message to bevo Find More Posts by bevo Yesterday, 20:05 # 2 ( permalink ) supasnooper Classic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 276 Re: Ignored CCJ If you cannot pay the full amount but can offer a monthly payment (redetermination), get this letter off to your local county court that deals with bankruptcy and send them this letter (amend to suit) Date,,,,,,,, The Court Manager CLAIM NUMBER: ****** To the Court Manager: REDETERMINATION UNDER RULE 14.13CPR I apply for this matter to be reconsidered (redetermination under Rule 14.13 of of the Civil Procedures Rules) Under rule 14.13 there is no court fee to make this application. I am unable to pay the full Judgment forthwith/instalment as ordered on (insert date) and submit that this has been set an unrealistic amount. I request the Court reconsiders the Judgment. To assist I enclose an up to date financial statement and list of other unsecured debts. As you can see my budget shows I have £..... surplus / £.... deficit after essetial living costs and also have (insert number of creditors in total). Given my circumstances and considering my finances as a whole I am able to offer £.... monthly instalments and request the Court set the Judgment at this amount. Under rule 14.13 of the CPR it is clear that because the Judgment was granted without a hearing I am entitled to have this redetermination and if necessary transferred to my local County Court. My application is also compliant with the time limit as it falls within the 14 days from the original order. I look forward to hearing from you. Yours faithfully, Your Name Send it next day recorded and wait for reply, when you get the reply dont presume it will automatically get transferred to your local court. If it does not then send this letter to make sure. In the Matter of XXX Vs Yourself Case Number XXXXX Dear Sir or Madam Re: Redetermination hearing on XXth. I would respectfully ask the court to reconsider the order dated XXth, in which you have set a redetermination hearing on Xth at XXX County court. As a litigant in person the civil Procedure rules explicitly state that there should be an automatic transfer of any redetermination hearing to my local court, which is XXX County Court. The Civil procedure Rules applicable are: 14.12 (1) Where a judge is to determine the time and rate of payment, he may do so without a hearing. (2) Where a judge is to determine the time and rate of payment at a hearing, the proceedings must be transferred automatically to the defendant's home court if – (a) the only claim is for a specified amount of money; (b) the defendant is an individual; (c) the claim has not been transferred to another defendant's home court under rule 13.4 (application to set aside (GL) or vary default judgment – procedure) or rule 26.2 (automatic transfer); (d) the claim was not started in the defendant's home court; and (e) the claim was not started in a specialist list. (Rule 2.3 explains which court is a defendant's home court) (3) If there is to be a hearing to determine the time and rate of payment, the court must give each party at least 7 days' notice of the hearing. I thank you for your cooperation in this matter, Yours faithfully, Your Name Also you may wish to make the courts aware that you have been unable to offer full payment of the CCJ as it is a large amount. Put it in writing and attach to your redetermination application. As written above, draw up an Income\Expenditure sheet and emclose to the courts. supasnooper View Public Profile Send a private message to supasnooper Find More Posts by supasnooper Yesterday, 20:11 # 3 ( permalink ) patrickq1 Platinum Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!
I have received a Judgment Default with an amount to pay to be received by 5 January. What happens if I ignore it? Will the bailiffs call on me or should I just fill in the court form explaining I cannot pay the amount requested?? I know ignoring is burying my head in the sand but thats how I feel. bevo View Public Profile Send a private message to bevo Find More Posts by bevo Yesterday, 20:05 # 2 ( permalink ) supasnooper Classic Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 276 Re: Ignored CCJ If you cannot pay the full amount but can offer a monthly payment (redetermination), get this letter off to your local county court that deals with bankruptcy and send them this letter (amend to suit) Date,,,,,,,, The Court Manager CLAIM NUMBER: ****** To the Court Manager: REDETERMINATION UNDER RULE 14.13CPR I apply for this matter to be reconsidered (redetermination under Rule 14.13 of of the Civil Procedures Rules) Under rule 14.13 there is no court fee to make this application. I am unable to pay the full Judgment forthwith/instalment as ordered on (insert date) and submit that this has been set an unrealistic amount. I request the Court reconsiders the Judgment. To assist I enclose an up to date financial statement and list of other unsecured debts. As you can see my budget shows I have £..... surplus / £.... deficit after essetial living costs and also have (insert number of creditors in total). Given my circumstances and considering my finances as a whole I am able to offer £.... monthly instalments and request the Court set the Judgment at this amount. Under rule 14.13 of the CPR it is clear that because the Judgment was granted without a hearing I am entitled to have this redetermination and if necessary transferred to my local County Court. My application is also compliant with the time limit as it falls within the 14 days from the original order. I look forward to hearing from you. Yours faithfully, Your Name Send it next day recorded and wait for reply, when you get the reply dont presume it will automatically get transferred to your local court. If it does not then send this letter to make sure. In the Matter of XXX Vs Yourself Case Number XXXXX Dear Sir or Madam Re: Redetermination hearing on XXth. I would respectfully ask the court to reconsider the order dated XXth, in which you have set a redetermination hearing on Xth at XXX County court. As a litigant in person the civil Procedure rules explicitly state that there should be an automatic transfer of any redetermination hearing to my local court, which is XXX County Court. The Civil procedure Rules applicable are: 14.12 (1) Where a judge is to determine the time and rate of payment, he may do so without a hearing. (2) Where a judge is to determine the time and rate of payment at a hearing, the proceedings must be transferred automatically to the defendant's home court if – (a) the only claim is for a specified amount of money; (b) the defendant is an individual; (c) the claim has not been transferred to another defendant's home court under rule 13.4 (application to set aside (GL) or vary default judgment – procedure) or rule 26.2 (automatic transfer); (d) the claim was not started in the defendant's home court; and (e) the claim was not started in a specialist list. (Rule 2.3 explains which court is a defendant's home court) (3) If there is to be a hearing to determine the time and rate of payment, the court must give each party at least 7 days' notice of the hearing. I thank you for your cooperation in this matter, Yours faithfully, Your Name Also you may wish to make the courts aware that you have been unable to offer full payment of the CCJ as it is a large amount. Put it in writing and attach to your redetermination application. As written above, draw up an Income\Expenditure sheet and emclose to the courts. supasnooper View Public Profile Send a private message to supasnooper Find More Posts by supasnooper Yesterday, 20:11 # 3 ( permalink ) patrickq1 Platinum Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about!
Activ Kapital - Harrassed for money I don't owe. Help please!
Activ Kapital - Harrassed for money I don't owe. Help please!
I used to have 2 accounts with GE Capital (Dorothy Perkins and Debenhams). I have not used the cards since 2002 when my purse and the cards were stolen. At the time I was still paying off for goods purchased, so I was happy to continue doing this. I phoned up and explained that my cards had been stolen and I would like to cancel them. The assistants to whom I spoke assured me that this would be done. However, I then received statements through the post that detailed goods that I had not ordered. To cut a long story short, despite dozens of calls and letters, I continued to be charged for these goods. A few times I stopped making payments, because I refused to be charged a higher rate of interest because of additional goods that I had not purchased and also I felt angry that these goods had not been removed from my statements. The payment requests kept on coming, plus late payment charges for the periods I had refused to make payments. Despite asking for full statements of items purchased, these were not forthcoming. Finally, in February 2007, after I was certain that I had paid off everything I owed (not including the ridiculous charges and goods that had been purchased after my card was stolen), I cancelled my direct debits with my bank. I then received the usual letter requesting payment because they had been unable to obtain it from my bank account. It was at this time that I again wrote to them and explained that I owed them nothing and also asked them for a copy of my original Consumer Credit Agreement and enclosed a payment of £1.00 by postal order. I also asked them for a copy of all statements detailing the goods for which I was being charged. They did not do this, so I assumed that the account was in dispute, which I stupidly believed would prevent them from passing the account onto a third party (firstly in this case to a solicitor acting on their behalf and then, finally, onto Activ Kapital). I then heard nothing more from them and assumed that the matter was settled and that the alleged debt became null and void. Imagine my surprise, therefore, when I again received a letter from Activ Kapital in May 2008 addressed to "The Occupier", which I assumed at first was junk mail and was almost shredded. However, I opened it and discovered that it was from AK asking of my whereabouts. A letter was promptly returned to them stating that I owed them nothing and that they had no legal right to continue hassling me for the money. I also emailed them a copy of the letter that I sent to GE Capital Bank in February 2007. I then received an email asking me to phone them so that the matter could be resolved. I didn't do this, because I don't feel that I should be ringing them when I do not acknowledge the debt. Also, I do not want them hassling me by phone. I did respond to the email, once again sending a copy of the Feb 2007 letter. End of the matter – or so I thought. A few days ago, I received a slip of paper in an envelope through the post. The piece of paper was headed Activ Kapital and all that was written on it was an instruction to call them and quote the reference given. This was immediately shredded. They didn't give any other details and anything like this I regard as spam. I can only assume that this is a crafty way of them trying to obtain my telephone number. (Even when you dial 141 beforehand, these companies are able to override that system and find your number). Where do I go from here? What letter should I write next, if they continue to harass me? They are clearly in breach of the law, but what can I say that will well and truly prevent them from contacting me again? Many thanks for your help! Amethyst666 View Public Profile Send a private message to Amethyst666 Find More Posts by Amethyst666 20th December 2008, 12:26 # 2 ( permalink ) silverfox1961 Gold Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Oct 2008 I am in: East midlands Posts: 676 Re: Activ Kapital - Harrassed for money I don't owe. Help please! Personally Id send them this: Dear Sir/Madam Account no: You have contacted me/us regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by myself/ourselves. I/we would point out that I/we have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to (insert company name). I am/we are familiar with the Office of Fair Trading Debt Collection Guidance which states that it unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the debtor in question. I/we would also point out that the OFT say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods. Furthermore ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment. I/we would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above account unless you can provide evidence as to my/our liability for the debt in question. I/we await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a complaint to the trading standards department and consider informing the OFT of your actions. I/we look forward to your reply. **Edit to suit** Remember, don't sign the letter. Send recorded delivery Don't shred any more letters. you could use them as evidence at a later date. Keep envelopes too. fox __________________ Please note: any advice i give is based on personal experiences. Your circumstances may be different. Silverfox 1-Lowells 0 silverfox1961 View Public Profile Send a private message to silverfox1961 Find More Posts by silverfox1961
I used to have 2 accounts with GE Capital (Dorothy Perkins and Debenhams). I have not used the cards since 2002 when my purse and the cards were stolen. At the time I was still paying off for goods purchased, so I was happy to continue doing this. I phoned up and explained that my cards had been stolen and I would like to cancel them. The assistants to whom I spoke assured me that this would be done. However, I then received statements through the post that detailed goods that I had not ordered. To cut a long story short, despite dozens of calls and letters, I continued to be charged for these goods. A few times I stopped making payments, because I refused to be charged a higher rate of interest because of additional goods that I had not purchased and also I felt angry that these goods had not been removed from my statements. The payment requests kept on coming, plus late payment charges for the periods I had refused to make payments. Despite asking for full statements of items purchased, these were not forthcoming. Finally, in February 2007, after I was certain that I had paid off everything I owed (not including the ridiculous charges and goods that had been purchased after my card was stolen), I cancelled my direct debits with my bank. I then received the usual letter requesting payment because they had been unable to obtain it from my bank account. It was at this time that I again wrote to them and explained that I owed them nothing and also asked them for a copy of my original Consumer Credit Agreement and enclosed a payment of £1.00 by postal order. I also asked them for a copy of all statements detailing the goods for which I was being charged. They did not do this, so I assumed that the account was in dispute, which I stupidly believed would prevent them from passing the account onto a third party (firstly in this case to a solicitor acting on their behalf and then, finally, onto Activ Kapital). I then heard nothing more from them and assumed that the matter was settled and that the alleged debt became null and void. Imagine my surprise, therefore, when I again received a letter from Activ Kapital in May 2008 addressed to "The Occupier", which I assumed at first was junk mail and was almost shredded. However, I opened it and discovered that it was from AK asking of my whereabouts. A letter was promptly returned to them stating that I owed them nothing and that they had no legal right to continue hassling me for the money. I also emailed them a copy of the letter that I sent to GE Capital Bank in February 2007. I then received an email asking me to phone them so that the matter could be resolved. I didn't do this, because I don't feel that I should be ringing them when I do not acknowledge the debt. Also, I do not want them hassling me by phone. I did respond to the email, once again sending a copy of the Feb 2007 letter. End of the matter – or so I thought. A few days ago, I received a slip of paper in an envelope through the post. The piece of paper was headed Activ Kapital and all that was written on it was an instruction to call them and quote the reference given. This was immediately shredded. They didn't give any other details and anything like this I regard as spam. I can only assume that this is a crafty way of them trying to obtain my telephone number. (Even when you dial 141 beforehand, these companies are able to override that system and find your number). Where do I go from here? What letter should I write next, if they continue to harass me? They are clearly in breach of the law, but what can I say that will well and truly prevent them from contacting me again? Many thanks for your help! Amethyst666 View Public Profile Send a private message to Amethyst666 Find More Posts by Amethyst666 20th December 2008, 12:26 # 2 ( permalink ) silverfox1961 Gold Account Customer Watch out, there are Claims Touts about! Search the Web here for your Christmas gifts. It helps us to pay our way. If we have helped you, please help us. Click here. Join Date: Oct 2008 I am in: East midlands Posts: 676 Re: Activ Kapital - Harrassed for money I don't owe. Help please! Personally Id send them this: Dear Sir/Madam Account no: You have contacted me/us regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by myself/ourselves. I/we would point out that I/we have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to (insert company name). I am/we are familiar with the Office of Fair Trading Debt Collection Guidance which states that it unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the debtor in question. I/we would also point out that the OFT say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods. Furthermore ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment. I/we would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above account unless you can provide evidence as to my/our liability for the debt in question. I/we await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a complaint to the trading standards department and consider informing the OFT of your actions. I/we look forward to your reply. **Edit to suit** Remember, don't sign the letter. Send recorded delivery Don't shred any more letters. you could use them as evidence at a later date. Keep envelopes too. fox __________________ Please note: any advice i give is based on personal experiences. Your circumstances may be different. Silverfox 1-Lowells 0 silverfox1961 View Public Profile Send a private message to silverfox1961 Find More Posts by silverfox1961
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